March 12, 2012

  • Homosexuality & Judgment: A Biblical Perspective

    Originally posted March 12, 2012 1:33 AM.

    NOTE: I beg you, my readers, to read this article carefully and with deep consideration. You may disagree with my reasonings, and my conclusions, but please know that I have made every effort to offer a thorough and thought-out argument here. In no way am I going to insult or condemn anyone who is gay or who supports LGBT. My goal here is to paint an explanation of what the Bible says about homosexuality and about judging others (which is often claimed just because someone is against homosexuality). If you have any disagreements with me here, please, please ask me questions so I might offer clarification if I can. Please offer your explanations for why you may disagree, too. We might not come to any resolution, but at least this may help keep the peace. If I offer a rebuttal to your comments, know that I’ll offer the same respect I ask of you. I’ll address what is said and will never make this a personal attack.


    PART ONE: MAKING JUDGMENTS

    Before I explain just why the Bible is against homosexuality, I need to explain a very important point that both Christians and non-Christians often misinterpret regarding the very tense issue of “judgment”. I begin here because so often many pro-gay advocates and/or Bible critics cite the first part of Jesus’ instruction, but fail to read the rest of His following message. So, if you wouldn’t mind, follow with me.

    In Matthew 7, Jesus warns His listeners, “Do not judge, and you will not be judged” (verse 1, NLT, italics mine). This is where many people stop, concluding that Jesus is saying to never judge. However, Jesus extrapolates His meaning by adding these oft-referenced points: “For you will be treated as you treat others. The standard you use in judging is the standard by which you will be judged. And why worry about a speck in your friend’s eye yet when you have a log in your own? How can you think of saying to your friend, ‘Let me help you get rid of that speck in your eye,’ when you can’t see past the log in your own eye?” (verses 2-4, NLT).

    Clearly, Jesus is pointing out that if we are going to judge someone else for what they do, we, too, will be judged equally. If we say that pre-marital sex is wrong, then, obviously, we had better not be engaging in it, ourselves! Verse 5 begins with Jesus responding to such behavior with, “Hypocrite!” and rightly so. In other words, the point about judging others is not that we ought not to judge others, but that we ought to judge without a contradicting heart. If we are not living right, how can we rightly address another’s problems? 

    That said, nothing in Scripture says that we are to never judge, ever! What many people miss is that Jesus’ message about judgment is about the way we judge others. Let’s think about this. We make judgments all the time, and rightfully so. When someone lies, we state that is wrong. When someone gives food to a homeless man, we praise the action. We are, in fact, making judgments. The difference is when we may claim that the liar is a bad person. We may equally state the giver is a good person. These are judgments that may or may not be accurate (for a giver might give for selfish motives, like getting attention), for the reasons for the actions stem from the heart. A matter much more difficult to accurately judge (which is why we are wiser to stay away from making such conclusions about the person).

    Paul further reiterates Jesus’ message about judging others by, first, pointing out the various evils that the people did (noted in Romans 1). He goes on to say, “They know God’s justice requires that those who do these things deserve to die, yet they do them anyway. Worse yet, they encourage others to do them, too” (Romans 1:32, NLT).

    Let’s back up, though, to the beginning of Paul’s letter. Note who he is speaking to, “I am writing to all of you in Rome who are loved by God and are called to be his own holy people” (Romans 1:7, NLT). (Paul is setting up an argument here. The letter is to a group of Christians, and he is listing the particular sins of other people. I speculate that previously, this particular group of Christ’s church had written to Paul regarding what these other people were doing wrong. Paul appears to know better…)

    In Rome, just as in Greece and other cultures, there were fertility gods. That there would be a shrine for…”worship”…to these gods would not be unheard of. Basically, it made male and female prostitution a “holy” ritual. Deeper study into these cultures would yield that men often engaged in sex with other men as if they were women, becoming effeminate (the opposite being just as nearly, if not completely, true). They were literally acting as if they were women despite the obvious fact that they were men. Among other sins, in verses 26 and 27, Paul specifically mentions homosexuality: men and women who give up natural sexual relations with the opposite sex and engaged in sex with each other, lustfully.

    Let’s remember that the contents of the Bible was not originally written with chapters and verses in mind, so we ought to read the end of Romans 1 straight on through into Romans 2 without a thought-break. Paul is building up to something.

    Then Paul begins Romans 2 and hits to the heart of the matter concerning judgment (in general; not about homosexuality, specifically, but not excluding it, either). Paul convicts the Christian Romans he is writing to: “You may think you can condemn such people, but you are just as bad, and you have no excuse! When you say they are wicked and should be punished, you are condemning yourself, for you who judge others do these very same things. And we know that God, in his justice, will punish anyone who does such things. Since you judge others for doing these things, why do you think you can avoid God’s judgment when you do the same things? Don’t you see how wonderfully kind, tolerant, and patient God is with you? Does this mean nothing to you? Can’t you see that his kindness is intended to turn you from your sin?” (Romans 2:1-4, NLT, emphasis mine).

    Paul is equalizing the playing field here. The Christians he is writing to apparently had a certain attitude of moral superiority, supposedly because they had accepted Christ as Lord. Think of the stereotypical snob with his nose in the air. Paul put a halt to that really quick. He asks them to remember they, too, are guilty, as well, but God’s patience and restraint was intended to give them time to repent. (Just read the Old Testament stories of the prophets and how God, for decades, gave the people time to repent.) This did not diminish the severity of the issue – sin was still extremely a sin – but God’s understanding of human nature prompted Him to not enact justice immediately. Yet these particular Christians seemed unmoved by God’s forgiveness and patience.

    So what we see here, again, is not a call to never judge, but to judge righteously, without hypocrisy. Remember, as I just pointed out, Paul lists several various sins (in addition to homosexuality) in Romans 1, and then points out that the people who claim to follow Christ were also practicing the very things that they were condemning others for.

    What’s worse is that they were condemning others, as if they had the right to say that another person was absolutely going to Hell for their sins. This is no one’s right to make a call on but Christ’s. Meaning, based on the way a person lives their life, I might make a reasonable guess about a person, judging the fruit of their lives; that he is likely going to find himself in Hell after death, but in no way do I have the right, even as a Christian, to pass judgment on another person, even if it’s to send them to Heaven. (Consider Matthew 7:16-18.) For I am just as guilty as any other person: I HAVE BROKEN GOD’S LAW. I can still rightly point out that what another person might be doing is wrong, but 1) I had better not be doing it myself, neglecting my own responsibility, and 2) I must not act in a manner of superiority or authority when God alone holds both.

    It has been wisely summarized that the difference between the two types of judgment are discerning and sentencing. The former assesses and makes a conclusion, and the latter is an attitude of superiority. With God, He is superior. He is also perfect and sinless. We cannot say that of ourselves. Further, discernment is not to exclude humility. It does not neglect the fact that we, ourselves, are as guilty of sin as the person whose actions we are judging as right or wrong.

    PART TWO: MADE IN GOD’S IMAGE
    Now, I know that alone was long…but, again, I felt it is important to explain because of the sensitive and personal nature that the topic of homosexuality holds with so many people here. What I’m about to share next is, in no way, meant to pass judgment on others in a way that suggests they are worthless or not also candidates for Jesus’ grace and mercy. What I will illustrate is why homosexuality is wrong according to the authority of God and His Word, the Bible.

    The reason why is because of one simple fact: God set the standard in Genesis 1 on the sixth day of Creation.

    Genesis 1:26-28b (NLT) reads, “Then God said, ‘Let us make human beings in our image, to be like us…’ So God created human beings in his own image. In the image of God he created them; male and female he created them. Then God blessed them and said, ‘Be fruitful and multiply…’”

    We often hear that God made us in His image, but I find that many of us don’t fully understand what “God’s image” actually “looks” like. Let’s try to imagine a world without gender for just a moment. Even though the Bible describes God as “Him” and “Father” – clearly masculine descriptions – God isn’t actually a “man” or “male”. He is SPIRIT (John 4:24). Before creating Adam and Eve, there is no gender distinction; just God. After creating them, though, we see God makes a very clear distinction between Adam and Eve – male and female – but both are said to be made in His image. So, despite one being male, and the other being female, yet both have God’s image, the only possible conclusions to be made are that: 1) God has no gender like we do, 2) God’s image is not in reference to a gender, and 3) Our genders embody a portion of God’s full image, or qualities of His nature.

    That might seem like a lot to take in and process, so I’ll try to break it down.

    1) As I already referenced, John 4:24 states that God is spirit. Even though Jesus, in the same breath, mentions God as “Father”, a masculine term, this isn’t to say God is male, but to describe a quality of whom and what God is. A father is the leader of the home. He is the initiator, the protector, and the provider. And much more.

    Did you know that most children these days struggle much more in life without a solid father figure to learn from? The father is also the main disciplinarian (not to be confused with abusive, but rather to be understood and loving instructor). Boys learn how to be men from their fathers and girls learn to feel valued and treasured, thus allowing them to find a husband of quality when they are older. God the Father is exactly all of this, and more for all His people.

    There is certainly more than just that, but God’s use of “Father” is meant to carry much, much weight and value behind it. It is difficult to understand in our culture (nay, the world) where fathers are extremely absent and fail to take responsibility as men, and further fail to teach their boys what true masculinity is all about. Suffice to say, we must learn to view God in terms of character, and not from our own perspective of gender. For gender suggests physical form, which God has none.

    2 & 3) Since God is spirit, our image being made to reflect God’s image must also be a spiritual image. Further, because we do have male and female people, it would stand to reason that the two different genders must embody different aspects of God’s full image. How can we know this?

    Let’s go to Genesis 2 where the creation of man was explained in detail. As you read through Genesis 2, you’ll see where God first creates Adam (man) (verse 7), and shortly later, Eve (woman) (verses 21-22).

    Adam rejoices: “’At last!’ the man exclaimed. ‘This one is bone from my bone, and flesh from my flesh! She will be called “woman,” because she was taken from “man”‘” (Genesis 2:23, NLT).

    God said that is was not good for a man to be alone, and as a result, saw fit to create from the man (as far as Creation goes) a woman. He did not create another man from the man. Nor did He create a woman from a woman. This is extremely important to take note of for anyone who will use the Bible as support for why they are against homosexuality, or even for it.

    Moses, the author of Genesis, points out right after Adam’s celebration of Eve, “This explains why a man…is joined to his wife, and the two are united into one” (Genesis 2:24, NLT). This is where we get the phrase “one flesh” from. It’s not just a physical reference to the fact that a man’s penis powerfully fits into a woman’s beautiful vagina (the “powerfully” and “beautiful” are reference to what they eachrepresent). There is a deep spiritual context here. When God blessed and commanded Adam and Eve (and all their male and female decedents) to become fruitful and multiply, the only way this could be done is through heterosexual union. Deeper, the only way to recreate the one flesh union is with one man and one woman. (To be clear, child-bearing is not the only intention God had in mind when He told Adam and Eve to have sex. Also, it’s clear that, at least due to the effects of sin, not all couples are able to have children. So sex must hold additional purposes lest God confines people to things they cannot hope to achieve. That just wouldn’t make sense for a logical God.)

    We need to understand what this One Flesh union represents, though. One Flesh is when two separate beings come together, each with their inherent qualities embodied in their gender – in their being male or female – and recreate the image of God, who is – you may scratch your head when I say this – neither male nor female…and both male and female.

    Here is what I mean. The spiritual qualities of God which He purposed into masculinity and femininity are “fused” together through sexual union for the purpose of glorifying God (because He is the one whom we are created in the image of) and for us to find joy and pleasure in who God is through the re-creative process of sex. It’s very much like experiencing who God is.

    The qualities that define a man and that define a woman are all found in God. He is not just a man or just a woman, but He is the One who has all the qualities that we find in one or the other. So when a husband and wife engage in holy, sanctified sex, God blesses them by making sex a very unifying and pleasurable experience. For as God is good, it would naturally make sense that sex, which is the process through which God’s image is recreated, is also good.

    So when we talk about why homosexuality is a sin, hopefully it begins to make sense why it’s such an abomination to Him. Because homosexuality – whether or not we’re talking specifically about sexual relations – as a lifestyle practice suggests that two men or two women can recreate God’s image…God’s full image. That is just not the case.

    Let me illustrate. Let’s just say for the sake of simplicity that masculinity is strength and femininity is beauty (both of which the Bible describes as qualities of God). If you have two men engaging in a homosexual manner, it is being suggested that God is just strength; just one ugly, strong God. A jerk. (We’re talking about ugly or beautiful character, and not looks.) Likewise, two women present the idea that God is just beautiful – a nice guy – but a wimp, lacking any initiative or power.

    Do you see now why homosexuality is a farce in the eyes of God? This isn’t about spreading hatred when a Christian (who is hopefully presenting the Bible’s message with love even as he opposes the topic of homosexuality). To God, homosexuality is an insult to His character. It’s an insult to God, Himself! It’s literally saying that God is someone and something that He is not. It is a complete misrepresentation of His very being.

    So when we present the message of the Bible, it’s extremely important for both the anti- and the pro-homosexuality advocates to understand why the Bible is against LGBT lifestyles. You are created male or female for a very specific purpose, and your very gender is a direct representation of who God is. Just as God moves throughout our lives, He moves by using each of us to accomplish His goals. We cannot hope to understand or see those goals realized (in our own lives, at least) if we are busy promoting homosexuality as okay, and even ordained by God.

    Let’s not forget that the Church is the Bride of Christ. It’s more than obvious that the Church is made up of male and female believers. Regarding His humanity, Jesus is obviously male. So when Scripture points out that there will be a union between Jesus and the Church (after the events of Revelation), this union again represents the full glory and image of God. (I would delve more into that topic in detail, but I simply want to point out how the Bible further supports the male and female relationship God intended for sexual unions and marriage.)

    Before I bring this to a close, let me be very clear. I understand that there are extreme situations – like someone being born with either physical gender parts, or a man with very high estrogen levels, or a woman with higher-than-normal testosterone – and these present very difficult problems to deal with if we are to try to reconcile this entire ordeal of homosexuality and same-sex attraction, etc. The matter is even more complicated by the fact that so many species in the animal kingdom also engage in homosexual acts. How can we determine that homosexuality among humans is bad when it’s found regularly elsewhere in life on this planet?

    Let me reiterate that when sin came into the world through Adam and Eve, all of Creation, not just mankind, was affected. And through Adam and Eve, sin was passed down to each new generation, both spiritually, physically (ie: the planet) and genetically. Homosexuality is really no more different than any other sin in terms of ultimate consequences deserved (Hell), but it does carry far more critical impact in terms of our direct relationship with each other and with God. Paul made the impact of sin very clear, “Against its will, all creation was subjected to God’s curse…” (Romans 8:22, NLT). That curse can be found in Genesis 3 when God punished Adam and Eve for disobeying Him and eating of the forbidden Tree (I’ll let you read up on that account, yourself).

    As has so often been said, let us not confuse addressing and condemning the sin of homosexuality with the right to judge the homosexual (the person). Intolerance of sin must never be delivered as an intolerance of the person. I hope that my (yes, lol, very lengthy) sermon here sheds some light on the matter.

    May God bless you with understanding and grace. :)

    In Christ, Michael

Comments (17)

  • So sorry about how the text ended up…I think Xanga hates Google Chrome, but I refuse to give it up!!! Haha. I am such a rebel. XD

  • First of all, I greatly appreciate your in-depth review of this. Few people have the tenacity to be able to review the information and make a sound judgement based on it; they usually just spew something they’ve heard from a pastor or the media. Secondly, we do agree on a few things, rather than the heart of the matter, but I applaud the tone and openness of your entry. 

     One thing I would like to address is in regards to the first part of your blog, where you are assessing the understanding of “Judge not…”  You say that Jesus was not saying that we should not judge, but that we should judge “righteously.”  I agree with the assessment, however, I believe, that because of mans sinful, shallow nature, that none of us can do so–without hypocrisy. If man is as equally condemned and we are all guilty of sin, then how can I righteously judge my brother or sister in Christ?  We are all hypocrites, in my opinion–we leave church, and we “try” not to fall into temptation, but we do–it is a curse of our humanity, and God forgives us because He is just and merciful–not because we deserve it. 

    I think that this is one of things about the church that saddens me most–the humility out of the process of Christianity is practically gone. No one wants to hear about our depravity or our nature; they want to hear about heaven, and how good of a life they are living because they go to church on Sunday. 
    As for the more pertinent explanation of your blog….I believe context plays a very important part of Biblical review; I realize that most people condemn this attitude because they assume that it means that those who believe this, don’t interpret the Bible  as God’s word, which is not true at all. I could sit here (and have done this before) give anyone a thousand reasons why slavery should be re-introduced, why men can totally justify living a polygamist lifestyle, and why you should not plant two different crops in the same field.  The Bible is a reflection of the society which it was written in–historically, spiritually, and personally. These are what the Bible withstand the test of time; they are a testament (no pun intended..haha) to their day. Christians generally take these kinds of approaches to books like Revelation, but with other ones, they are less inclined to…address the subject of context, which I don’t understand at all. 

    I suppose the point I am trying to make is that, people make their judgement calls on God’s word all the time and have done so since it’s inception and I believe that you can take a great deal from history and present day theologians that have done so…

    Martin Luther

     used it to condemn the Catholic church for it’s greediness and abhorrent use of church offices, 

    David Koresh  used it to convince his followers that he was god incarnate and to rationalize the physical and sexual abuse of the women and children in his compound

    Joel Osteen uses it to justify why God is going to give you everything you’ve ever wanted (if you’re a Christian, that is…and if you believe “enough”),

    Fred Phelps 

    uses it justify his actions and protests against the military and then praises their deaths as God’s revenge against everyone who is not a member of their own church, and



    Martin Luther King, Jr. used it to address ongoing racial issues of his time.

    Some of the above examples, I agree with, some I don’t. I hope the ones I don’t agree with are a little bit more obvious, though. XD I suppose my point with, there are some people who have agreed with the assessments of the thinkers above, and some that have not. In light of this, we draw our own conclusions and judgement regarding this…but the fact is that we are all human. We make mistakes, and we are bound to our limited views by our sinful nature; I am not saying we should not attempt to understand the Bible, I just think we need to consider this when we are studying it. 
    In any case, I respect your view and your thoughts on the matter. I have done a great deal of thinking about this and I know that I am still not done. I want to thank you for giving me the opportunity to express my own views about the matter and I wish you all the best! 

  • @Xbeautifully_broken_downX - ”  I agree with the assessment, however, I
    believe, that because of mans sinful, shallow nature, that none of us
    can do so–without hypocrisy. If man is as equally condemned and we are
    all guilty of sin, then how can I righteously judge my brother or sister
    in Christ?” – yep, I completely agree with you.

  • @Xbeautifully_broken_downX - Quite alright. I’m familiar with Chrome’s odd behavior with Xanga.
    I do believe I follow what you’re trying to say about judging others. But that’s why I tried to make a distinction between judging one’s actions in a discerning way – that is, to tell the difference between what is good and what is bad – and in judging in a sentencing manner, as if to pass a sentence for a crime.

    The difference rests in a matter of humility. When we judge discerningly, with righteousness, it does not ignore the fact that we are definitely as guilty as the person whose actions we are judging. Rather, humble judgment takes into full account the fact that we are guilty, but it does not shy away from the fact that there are many times when we need to point out the error of another. The critical factor is that when we point out the error of another, it ought to be with the intention of helping them to do good. Otherwise, we run the extreme risk of what Paul told the Christians in Rome (as I described above in the article). It’s not enough to simply point out someone’s error – that alone does nothing to help others and can even branch off into gossip.

    Judgment with humility offers loving correction for the other person. Judgment without humility tries to pass one’s self off as guiltless or in a natural position of authority (as God is). That’s where we have the right and the necessity to judge what others do.

    @ShimmerBodyCream - I’m curious as to why you highlighted that portion of the article. Mind sharing your thoughts?

  • I must have serious Xanga ADD.  *lol*  I definitely was turned off by the length of this post.  Sorry.   

    However, I DID manage to read it all.  And I think that you absolutely hit the nail on the head.  Gosh I wish I could always convey my thoughts so clearly & concisely.  VERY good job Michael.  Everything makes absolute sense. 

  • @MyTwoCentss – I’m honored – TRULY honored – that you read through all of that. I know I’m very long-winded. I honestly tried to keep it to the point, but my insufferable mind tends to think like a spider web all to capture and reach that single fly. All these thoughts and threads of connected points (and trying to work out the more difficult points for which there are no easy connective threads) ends up me doing a constant mind-dump of intelligent-sounding rambling. …LOL I guess I’m doing good that I still managed to come across as actually sounding intelligent… What you have here are the raw samplings I’ve had from other Christian bloggers who are stronger in their skills of logical reasoning with well-studied understanding. This here is me knowing what the puzzle looks like mostly, and trying to put it together by careful shuffling. LOL That’s how it seems to me in my head. …Don’t envy me too much.

    I’m most grateful, though, for your encouragment about the sense I hoped to present in my article here. Given that you have “Xanga ADD”, if you ever can think of ways that I might help you and fellow bloggers who just don’t tune into long posts (which is probably most of us), I’d be grateful for your tips.

  • @Rhindon - *lol*  Yeah, I didn’t know if you’d read that pulse or not.  I hope you weren’t offended.  IRL I’m long winded myself.  I need to work on that as my son was recently diagnosed with ADHD & it says point blank those kids don’t do well with long talks.  *lol*  I’m the queen of those when I get upset & try to lecture him.  So trust me – I have the same issues just in different ways. 

    I think your blog was well written & had great points.  I’m glad that I read it.  It had more substance worth reading than much on Xanga. 

  • @MyTwoCentss - Xanga and substance…wow…I actually remember those days. Seems like it was eons ago.
    How are you handling matters with your son’s diagnosis?

  • @Rhindon - Well, we’re going to be getting him into some counseling.  I’m hoping that will help teach my  husband and I how to most effectively communicate with him to help him be more successful in his behavior & such.  I homeschool & I’m glad I do.  The suggestions the evaluator had for the public school – I don’t see very many schools being able to successfully pull off the suggestions (like a different grading scale, quiet study area for him to be used to help him focus yet NOT being used as punishment, making sure to have eye contact, have him repeat the directions back, giving him extra time to complete assignments & tests, etc).  So this means that he is much more suited to homeschooling than I ever realized before making the decision.  I thank God he led me to that conclusion before knowing his diagnosis.  He’d have had a hard time in school most likely, like my brother (with ADD) had.  

  • I will come back later to finish reading, but so far it sounds good :) . I love gays, they are some of the best friends you can have!<3

  • @MyTwoCentss - I recommend looking for a book by the mother of Christian comedian/singer, Mark Lowry. I cannot recall his mom’s name.
    Mark grew up with ADHD, and he often jokes about it. I haven’t read his mom’s book about her experiences growing up with Mark, but I’m SURE it’ll be wise, encouraging, and fun. ;) (After all, if you know Mark, you KNOW his mom has to have a sense of humor after all.)

    @Be_happy_Be_you - I agree! I have a couple of gay contacts on Facebook and don’t mind it at all. I don’t shy away from making Biblical reasons CLEAR for why homosexuality is a sin, but we still get along. Heck, we even help each other out on CastleVille! LOL
    One of my former co-workers was gay, as well. For the most part, his demeanor didn’t bother me (even though I have strong notions about what masculinity ought to be – and no, I don’t mean stoic Bruce Willis wanna-bes LOL). What did bother me was his lack of sense and criticism regarding my general views on sex and that I refuse to move in with my girlfriend until after we’re married. That he is gay, while a serious sin issue to my mind, didn’t otherwise bother me. We still talked and chatted at work and all was pretty much well and good.

    I look forward to your feedback.

  • Haha yeah :D ! But it’s also god who says everyone is perfect and he created us for a reason, so I understand this post but at the same time I don’t think it’s a sin<3 yay for different opinions ;) . Haha :D yeah they take it more lightly :) !  And why shouldn’t it be, they are humans too ;) !

  • @Rhindon - I have heard of Mark Lowry.  My brother (who has ADD) loved his stuff.  Esp the stuff on ADHD because it made my brother feel less different.  I didn’t know his mom had written a book.  I would find that interesting, thank you for sharing. 

  • @Be_happy_Be_you - I definitely agree that God created us for a purpose. The oft-referenced verse of Jeremiah 29:11 proves that verbatim. However, in light of the cliche saying and from Biblical commentary on the matter,

    no

     one is perfect. I’m gonna have to get a little in-depth here… To claim that anyone is perfect or not perfect instantly suggests there is a standard against which to compare one’s (im)perfection.

    For example, it has been rumored (though highly debunked) that in days of old the measurement of an inch was based on the length of the king’s finger. Clearly, this standard presents many problems…
    - What if the king is a young boy (it did happen) and his hands grew?
    - Suppose the king lost his finger! (Suddenly, an inch would be REALLY small…)
    - The changes in the standard from one king to the next.

    An inch would become increasingly relative, always changing. If a building plan called for a 2×4 piece of wood, any changes to the king’s finger would certainly complicate things! LOL Would buildings built to be such-and-such high suddenly SHRINK because a king’s finger grew? An absurd thought to anyone who actually concluded that such was the case.

    Thus, that’s also the inherent problem with saying anyone is actually perfect, or without sin. Some people have made “minor” mistakes in life. Mistakes, by human terms, which are greatly inconsequential. While it is true that some sins really are minor in terms of their resulting consequence(s), the one thing that we (especially Americans) tend to forget is that it’s primarily not about how bad the sin is that God is concerned about (though, that does play a part). No, see, God created us in His image. His perfect image. God is the unchanging standard of perfection, unlike the king’s standard for an inch. Even if the only sin you told was a little, white lie, you still sinned. You no longer have a perfect record of the life you have been given. You have ultimately lost your innocence.

    What we think of as bad, really bad, good, or perfect will not hold up in God’s courtroom on Judgment Day (not to be confused with a certain sci-fi movie). When asked if we kept the Law perfectly, undeniably, we cannot hope to win the trial. We are guilty. No one is perfect.
    This is why I also went into SO MUCH detail about why homosexuality is also a sin. It’s because our sexuality is a major conduit through which we recreate God’s perfect image and the unity found in the Trinity of the Father, Son, and Spirit. Two separate beings yet ONE Flesh (or in God’s case, three persons, ONE Spirit). This is why homosexuality based on love alone cannot hope to win the debate, either, when anyone claims that God is love. While He is love, He is so much more than just that. That’s why I couldn’t slap you in the face because that’s what I believe is “okay” to do and say that I care about you. You wouldn’t at all feel very loved or cared about. And homosexuality is, at its core, a major slap to God’s very being and character and nature.

    Homosexuality, whittled down, is no worse than any other sin. Meaning, any sin, regardless of severity, is enough to earn us Hell. We do not receive eternal life, nor Heaven, nor peace with God. Yet, homosexuality is so severe that it attacks the very core of who we are: sexual beings made to honor and worship God, whom are given the joy and pleasure and GIFT of the sexual act to be used to serve our mate and GOD.

    Finally, while it’s important to hear each other’s opinions (another topic I’m passionate about), I’m more focused on discovering what is TRUE. Opinions ought to reflect what is true. (It’s my opinion that candy ought to be eaten for breakfast, lunch, and dinner…but the truth is that that would be detrimental to my health.)

    And ultimately, I agree, even gay people are humans, too. When something really IS a sin, it’s difficult to look past it, whether that sin is sexual, a lying tongue, a prideful heart, and so on. It’s easier to focus on another’s sin because it distracts us from our own problems…problems too painful to deal with because we KNOW that we aren’t perfect. No one…NO ONE…likes to be reminded that they’ve failed. A failure which clearly points out that there IS a standard for perfection…and we haven’t and CANNOT meet it on our own.

    Enter Jesus. Enter Jesus, one and all. You. Me. And the gay man at my side. Each and everyone of us.

  • @MyTwoCentss - OH MY GOODNESS!!! :D You’ve only

    heard

     of him? YouTube the guy! NOW! LOL
    Then go to Amazon.com and see if you can’t find his mother’s book. I recommend Google-ing “ADHD, Mark Lowry, mom”. That may help.

  • @Rhindon - Oh I’ve seen a video of his stuff before.  My mom would check them out at the library for my brother to see.    She loved that he is a Christian so she knew his stuff would be clean AND funny.  Unlike many other comedians in the biz.

  • @MyTwoCentss - Ah okay. :) Yeah, he’s definitely a God-send for the comedy scene. AND he writes great parodies and original pieces. :D

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